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Is there thought without the word? - JKOnline Daily Quotes |
Is there thought without the word? Posted: Questioner: Can there be thinking without memory? Krishnamurti: In other words, is there thought without the word? You know, it is very interesting, if you go into it. Is the speaker using thought? Thought, as the word, is necessary for communication, is it not? The speaker has to use words, English words, to communicate with you who understand English. And the words come out of memory, obviously. But what is the source, what is behind the word? Let me put it differently. There is a drum; it gives out a tone. When the skin is tightly stretched at the right tension, you strike it, and it gives out the right tone, which you may recognize. The drum, which is empty, in right tension, is as your own mind can be. When there is right attention and you ask the right question, then it gives the right answer. The answer may be in terms of the word, the recognizable, but that which comes out of that emptiness is, surely, creation. The thing that is created out of knowledge is mechanical, but the thing which comes out of emptiness, out of the unknown, that is the state of creation. - Krishnamurti, Collected Works, Vol. XII,181,Choiceless Awareness |
The self is a problem that thought cannot resolve Posted: Can thought resolve our problems? By thinking over the problem, have you resolved it? Any kind of problem -economic, social, religious- has it ever been really solved by thinking? In your daily life, the more you think about a problem, the more complex, the more irresolute, the more uncertain it becomes. Is that not so in our actual, daily life? You may, in thinking out certain facets of the problem, see more clearly another person's point of view, but thought cannot see the completeness and fullness of the problem; it can only see partially, and a partial answer is not a complete answer, therefore it is not a solution. The more we think over a problem, the more we investigate, analyze, and discuss it, the more complex it becomes. So, is it possible to look at the problem comprehensively, wholly? How is this possible? Because that, it seems to me, is our major difficulty. Our problems are being multiplied, there is imminent danger of war, there is every kind of disturbance in our relationships, and how can we understand all that comprehensively, as a whole? Obviously, it can be solved only when we can look at it as a whole -not in compartments, not divided. When is that possible? Surely, it is only possible when the process of thinking which has its source in the 'me', the self, in the background of tradition, of conditioning, of prejudice, of hope, of despair, has come to an end. Can we understand this self, not by analyzing, but by seeing the thing as it is, being aware of it as a fact and not as a theory -not seeking to dissolve the self in order to achieve a result but seeing the activity of the self, the 'me', constantly in action? Can we look at it, without any movement to destroy or to encourage? That is the problem, is it not? If, in each one of us, the center of the 'me' is non-existent, with its desire for power, position, authority, continuance, self-preservation, surely our problems will come to an end. The self is a problem that thought cannot resolve. There must be an awareness which is not of thought. To be aware, without condemnation or justification, of the activities of the self, just to be aware, is sufficient. - Krishnamurti, The First and Last Freedom,112,Choiceless Awareness |
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